National Federation Of Sea Anglers - Yorkshire Division Meeting November 22nd 2007
Chairman Richard Ferre President: Mr Bob Page
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Yorkshire Division
MINUTES OF MEETING 19TH NOVEMBER 2007
SCARBOROUGH ANGLERS SOCIAL CLUB
ATTENDANCE:
Chairman: John Amery, Secretary: Gwyn Davies
Committee Members: Stuart McPherson, Glen Kilpatrick
Neil Horsley, Ken Gaches, David Lowe: Scarborough Boat Anglers
John Huntley, Sam Huntley: Bridlington
John Whitton: Whitby S A and member NESFC
There were insufficient members present to complete a quorum, but it was decided to proceed as there were no issues to be discussed which would require voting on.
APOLOGIES:
Treasurer, Jean Amery
MINUTES of the 20TH August meeting.
These had been circulated and were proposed S.McPherson, seconded K Gaches as being a true record.
MATTERS ARISING:
Bradford Angling Club.
Gwyn Davies stated that he had been in contact Brian Clarkson keeping him up to date with minutes of the division, Brian stated that the Bradford club were holding there annual general meeting on the 20th November when the question of re-joining NFSA would be discussed and he would keep us informed.
GUERNSEY QUALIFIERS
Unfortunately Nev Charlesworth, who has been running these matches in the Division, was not in attendance to discuss future events, with the qualifiers coming around again discussions need to take place as soon as possible. Gwyn Davies suggested that because of the different types of fishing in the division’s area with more mixed ground to the northern end of the coastline compared to the clean beaches of Holderness/Humberside/ North Lincolnshire coastline then there might be scope for 2 matches or the original match run in a series of heats encompassing the whole coastline of the Division.
J A to discuss with David Rowe action JA.
CHAIRMANS REPORT
The chairman reported that the Division was starting to become active, and we would be hearing from Gwyn and Stuart regarding contact made with various bodies. He stated that we now need to pick up a lot of loose ends and show a united higher profile presence.
TREASURES REPORT:
Jean Amery sent a report stating that Dave Shay had closed the old account and had forwarded a cheque for £565.42 to the division. Only expense since last meeting was a donation of £ 20 to the Douglas Heart Foundation as requested by the family of Gerard Twigger, NFSA Finance Director who sadly passed away in early October.
Gerard had attended the inaugural explorationary meeting which led to the setting up of the new Division.
Funds stand at £545.42
Because of the intracies of setting up a new account, and because Jean and John were only in office till mid 2008 it was agreed to let Jean hold the money for the present and pass it on when new treasurer is elected.
CORRESPONDENCE:
Letter to NESFC. GD read a letter he had sent to NESFC introducing ourselves and asking for representation for recreational sea anglers. Simon Prince (deputy chief fisheries officer) replied that the NESFC are committed to the stakeholders within the inshore fisheries management process and would like to reconvene at least one annual consultation meeting with the RSA community, asking us to suggest a venue/date/time.
Further to this they are hoping to establish a Fishing Industry Working Group in the near future comprising of 10-12 members of which there will be a dedicated RSA member and will be in contact regarding this group.
Regarding the collection of bait he forwarded some guidance notes regarding the byelaw on Lobster, edible crab and velvet crab it was also stated that the green shore crab is not covered by this byelaw and collection of this species is unrestricted.
He also stated that the bass bag limit byelaw had been put on hold by the NESFC.
Also enclosed was a copy of their official response regarding the dredging off the mouth of the Humber estuary
At this stage John Whitton, Whitby CSA was introduced, as he is a member of NESFC and was able to discuss the attitudes of the committee.
He was asked about a shellfish byelaw, which puts restrictions on capture of Edible, and Velvet swimming crabs. John stated that the byelaw was intended to control illegal potting etc and it was not intended to affect hand collection from the shore, although a permit is required to collect Lobster, Edible Crab, Velvet Swimming Crab and Whelks, these permits allow a daily catch limit of 2 Lobsters, up to maximum combined total of 10 Crab (Edible or Velvets) and 30 Whelks. John Huntley spoke out against the byelaw and general discussion took place so that everyone became better informed of the situation.
Pair trawling for Bass off Flamborough was discussed and the meeting asked if legality could be clarified. John Whitton expressed his concerns on this type of fishing.
It was agreed that GD attempt to set up a meeting. Action GD
Gwyn Davies reported that he had been unhappy at the way the NFSA had released news on the agreed membership fees and had written to Richard Ferre. He had received a reply but this had not answered all his comments. He was chasing further response and would report to the next meeting. A copy of his concerns was given to Stuart McPherson so it can be brought up at the Standing committee meeting. Agreed that JA/SMcP would raise the matter, that members were of the opinion that they had not been given the full facts regarding Sports England funding both in the past and in respect of NFSA involvement in the Angling Development Board at the SC on the 24th. Action JA/SMcP
Gwyn had responded to a request from Nigel Proctor to complete a consultation document regarding a proposed wind farm off Hull on how the development will affect the RSA and charter boats.
Access Issue, South Bank of Humber
An email had been received from NFSA member Kevin Riley regarding a barrier being elected on the Humber wall, blocking access behind the millennium works; he also mentioned that all of the local authorities across the country are supposed to have set up Local Access forums to agree policy on local access issues. John Amery explained the he dealt with access complaints nationally for the NFSA and if all the details could be forwarded he could look into the matter a copy of the email was given to JA.
Kevin also stated that the local access forums are looking at the redesignation of the upper tidal limit of the Humber from its current location at the confluence of the Trent, Ouse and Humber to the Humber Bridge, this would mean that anglers fishing this stretch would need an EA licence to fish west of the bridge which would remove the right of access to the inter tidal zone of the river. It was also suggested that all local authorities should be contacted to see what there policies were regarding Local Access forums. Action GD
Defra
Gwyn said that he had been in contact with Anthony Hines of Defra regarding the Marine bill and the RSA Strategy also asking if the division could become a stakeholder which he stated we could he also forward the RSA Strategy V5
Membership Price increase
E-mail from Vicky White giving details of new membership fees.
Humber Dredging.
Gwyn had been contacted by head office regarding issue with dredging off the Humber estuary also being put into contact with John Coppock who was doing the research, John Coppock was looking for information regarding what type of fishing that goes on in the area of the dredging, Gwyn stated that he had pointed John in the direction of the Humber Cruising Association, NESFC and the charter angling boats of Grimsby as they would be better to give the info he wanted
British Rod Caught Fish Committee had circulated details of new record fish. GD had passed this onto all members who had e-mail addresses.
NORTH EAST SEA FISHERIES COMMITTEE
It was hoped that Simon Prince (deputy chief fisheries officer) would be available at the meeting but due to problems beyond his control he would not be available, John Whitton (member of the North Eastern Sea Fishing Committee) answered most of the questions posed and stated that he would be happy to bring up any issues that we wanted to forward to him. The meeting expressed their thanks.
COMPETITIONS
The trophies that the division holds were put on display and it was agreed that they needed to be used. Because of the lack of people present it was decided to put back to the next meeting discussion on competitions, but there was general agreement that we should hold at least an annual shore and an annual boat championship. It was decided that we should attempt to get Nev Charlesworth to the next meeting.
Also the possibility of holding workshops for the junior anglers as we have 3 or 4 qualified coaches in the division, Gwyn to contact Phil Arnott regarding this
STANDING COMMITTEE
Stuart McPherson reported that he would be attending his first meeting on 24th Nov. He had received the papers and where possible had circulated to divisional members for comment in case they want anything bringing up. He also stated that he only had about 1/3 of the division’s members on e-mail, so if anyone knows other members who have e-mail can they tell them to contact Stuart by email on smyorksnfsa07@yahoo.com
On receiving the minutes of the last meeting of the standing committee Gwyn picked upon certain articles in these minutes these were the Agenda items on Sport England, Divisional Grants and insurance which he had little or no info on, He had contacted David Rowe regarding them explaining his concerns regarding the release of information. David agreed that all divisions/members need to have better communication of information, also stating if GD would put his concerns on paper he would bring them up at the Standing committee meeting.
ENGLISH NATURE
Members had heard that English Nature is to propose a No Take Zone at Flamborough. Details were a little unclear but the meeting discussed the impact this would have on angling, especially the Bridlington Charter fleet, and the shore anglers who come from all over the division to fish this venue. It was agreed that we needed to be in contact with English Nature at all stages otherwise recreational sea anglers could suffer greatly. Action GD
MEMBERSHIP
The chairman pointed out the need to increase membership, as we need to be speaking on their behalf. John Whitton said he thought Whitby Charter Skippers might join as a group.
DATE OF NEXT MEETING TO BE ARRANGED NEXT WEEK action GD
There being no other business the meeting closed at 9.50pm