Completely disagree Phil. He did what he did to feather his own nest both as a bass and a mullet angler with complete disregard for anyone else especially those of us who target cod, not one thought about how things could end up with tackle shops going out of business and charter skippers being unable to sell boats that they have invested their life savings into. If you want to get the opinion of anglers in any area you go to that area and you ask them, you go to their fishing clubs and you speak to them, you go to the charter skippers like Paul Kilpatrick, Mick Leaonard and Rich Ward and the charter skippers from Brid who attended the meeting and you ask them. You don't decide to speak on peoples behalves. When you attend parliament as an angling rep you need to diclare just how many people you are representing. THE SACN is an organisation of less than 1000 members, how can that be seen as representative of anything. Like was said at the meeting by a member of this forum who sat near the back, it is wrong to speak to anyone but the natives about their patch. With regard to the Yorks NFSA. Tuesday night our club held its bimonthly committee meeting. It was discussed whether to affiliate to the NFSA or The Northern Federation. After reading of my censorship on bag limits by NFSA and of the NFSA backing of bag limits + their draft strategy response. Our full committee decided unanimously not to join the NFSA. So along with all the other clubs in the region who refuse to join up we are signalling as a club that the Yorks Division of NFSA does not represent us. Do you not think that the lack of members for Yorkshire tells you anything Phil ? I think you will be reading more about the Angling Reps representativeness (or lack of it) in coming months issues from the angling press - keep your eyes peeled.