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The Fishing Is Poor

Discussion in 'Sea Fishing Forum - Shore, Boat & Kayak Fishing' started by Baramundi Bob, Jul 4, 2013.

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  1. Baramundi Bob

    Baramundi Bob Super Leeds United !!!

    :surprise:

    Something you dont hear very often.

    http://www.wcsa.whitbyseaanglers.co.uk/the-truth-about-the-fishing-at-whitby
     
  2. bigcod

    bigcod Rockling

    I tell my lads that everytime they phone how the fishing is glen you have to but and its a big but i heard one skipper and it aint rich ward wingeing about some people saying they had had a good day which this year upto now hasnt been as regular as it should be but if you manage 70-80 codling on the boat for the day its a very good catch this year last year it was nothing flash at all but obviously his lads have never managed that his lads had being reading the forum and saw the reports i heard it all on radio one morning and to honest i was not amused just a touch of jealousy comes into play everybody knows its not jumping aboard every day but you are still getting some very good days and as a skipper you are working your bloody nutts off for the lads to get the results.

    paul.
     
  3. Baramundi Bob

    Baramundi Bob Super Leeds United !!!

    I find it refreshing to read the truth sometimes as often you would be led to believe you can't fail at Whitby.. but the truth is everyone fails and this year has been abysmal so far. Don't think I've ever seen it so bad. Its a sorry state of affairs when you see ten pound ling winning daily prizes. Years gone by they would have been the smallest fish of the day not the biggest. Full marks rich for saying it how it is.

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  4. Baramundi Bob

    Baramundi Bob Super Leeds United !!!

    Re: Re: The Fishing Is Poor

    Oh well, not to worry. Maybe you could post a PIC of the boxes then no one could argue. I noticed on Facebook last week someone was saying you had lied. Post the evidence then there is no doubts.

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  5. bigcod

    bigcod Rockling

    Glen we all tell our lads how the fishing is but everyday is another day you could hit the jackpot tommorow its called fishing think positive..




    Cheers paul.
     
  6. andyo123

    andyo123 Whitby Fishing Forum _ Simply The Best

    We all know the fishing so far this year hasn't been as good as previous years but there must be caution as to how this is reported. You don't want to be sending the message out "don't bother coming it's crap this year"
    If people read on here, facebook or any other site that fishing is poor they maybe put off Whitby and try somewhere else. I'm not saying skippers should lie and say everything is rosy when its not but just be careful how you say it.
     
  7. stickman

    stickman There's a difference between fishing and catching!

    When I phoned Rich Cope (not be be confused with Rich Ward) on Tuesday evening to see if we'd be fishing aboard Mistress the next day he stressed a couple of times that the fishing was "hard" and that he didn't want us expecting big bags. I told all my "lads" the same thing but after a few hours fishing with hardly anything but mackerel some of the guys were moaning and blaming the skipper - that pissed me off! He was doing his best and in the end it paid off and most of us caught decent fish - it took me two hours at home to clean, cut into portions and wrap for the freezer all the fish I caught - and that was enough for me - thank you! I'd already filleted my fish on the way back to port, fortunately so didn't have to do that at home too.
    I gave one 7lb ling to a mate who didn't manage to catch - though he lost a really good fish - otherwise Id have had that to do as well!

    So - to suggest that it isn't worth going fishing (as that article reads to me) is, in itself a lie :whistle:
    Yes, it's nowhere near as good as last year, or the year before - but that's fishing! I had a REALLY good day yesterday - but if I'd read that article and taken notice of it I'd have cancelled the day and been miserable instead :wink:
     
  8. bucko

    bucko New Member

    I've never had anything but an honest description of how the fishing is from the Whitby skippers I've dealt with.

    Now I know they have come under online scrutiny at times and I would often say that its a chance to engage with people (good social media practice)...but, I think a lot of the 'knockers' (apt description) perhaps have affiliations/loyalties to other boats/ports in the area so sadly it would be a wasted exercise.
     
  9. craigrob

    craigrob Blenny

    No matter which skipper or boat you are booked on, ALL anglers of differing abilities should always in my opinion, have an open mind as to what and how many you will catch. fishing is such an unpredictable entity that any other mindset is setting yourself up for disappointment if you don't catch many. The whole day from getting outta bed in the morning to getting in at the end of it is also included in the thrill of the day out. so if you factor that in with a day out at sea doing what you enjoy I can't see much cause to complain. I'm booked on with paul on trot on II this saturday and will post a report regardless of what I catch.
     
  10. stickman

    stickman There's a difference between fishing and catching!

    THAT'S AN EXTREMELY GOOD POST!
    Couldn't agree more - the whole day is what I look forward to, not just what I catch
     
  11. THE DOLPHIN

    THE DOLPHIN Rockling

    It's not all about filling plastic sacks with fish to me it's going out to relax have a bit of crack with the other lads onboard and enjoying the day getting a few fish is a bonus Rich Cope will tell you how i feel on a day out.

    If any of you guy's reading this have ever stood in the back of the boat wineing on about the lack of fish and being fed up just take a moment to think how the skipper feels it is not a good feeling at all for him.
     
  12. Baramundi Bob

    Baramundi Bob Super Leeds United !!!

    Its quite refreshing to read that people don't come to fill sacks. However its also a shame that some of the skippers don't actually listsen to what thier customers tell them. The one skipper who has listened and takes a different approach is Rich Cope. A lot of his anglers fish with him because they like him, he's an honest fun lad who tries his best but also offers a different approach. One other thing I think each skipper should do, and Paul is guilty of this too, is to stop watching how other people run their business, stop knocking each others approach and concentrate on your own business. Over the years ive watched some of the most trivial behaviour ive ever seen. Like when people started having tshirts printed and then the rest would slag them off. Whats the problem with trying to promote yourself ?? Thats what makes the business world tick. Also ive heard paul come in for amazing stick because he uses this forum,i also know some of the skippers made rich copes life a misery when he started using the site. Too many are commenting on others rather than focussing on their own. Just my opinion for what its worth.

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  13. Baramundi Bob

    Baramundi Bob Super Leeds United !!!

    Also I'm quite often asked why I don't go boat fishing or in the festival. All my mates go but I can't bring myself to do it. For me the fun element is lost. Would love to do some inshore fishing with a skipper who is interested but pulling baby lying out of a wreck all day or tiddly codlings on heavy gear just don't float my boat.

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  14. jethro

    jethro New Member

    On all the trips that I have been on this year and no matter which of the 3 skippers i have been wit. I have always been told that the fishing is not good. What does this matter to me?? Not a sausage. I would sooner be out on the sea breathing in the fresh sea air (or Mr Cope's diesel fumes!!!) than stuck at work any day. As has been said, its all the day that counts as the adventure and if you catch a few fish then its a bonus. I think Rich ward's post is inspirational and it is refreshing to see honesty amongst the skippers. This approach may lose a few customers, but me personally...I think it will attract more.
     
  15. Rapin

    Rapin New Member

    Rich Ward should be applauded for being truthful and honest about the present fishing situation in Whitby. He has a few decades of experience in angling industry so if he says the fishing is hard going at the moment, I will believe him. It doesn't however stop me, and I'm sure most of regular anglers on this forum, from coming to fish at Whitby. As many has pointed out fishing is more than filling your bag with cod but a lot more in terms of being at sea with your fellow fishermen and wetting the lines.
     
  16. bucko

    bucko New Member

    Surely its the diversity of the WCSA fleet that makes it what it is?
    You've your specialists, your big fish seekers, your 3 hour trippers, the boats with a relaxed approach, those that shun the limelight etc....
    If thats how catty it gets then imagine if they were all doing the same thing!
     
  17. Baramundi Bob

    Baramundi Bob Super Leeds United !!!

    Sometimes theres sniping behind the scenes. Its fine that people dont want to advertise or promote themeslves, but to then sit and slag off those who do is not the way to do business.
     
  18. driffangler

    driffangler Hull City A.F.C "Come on u Tigers"

    Got to applaud what Rich has said, its called fishing not catching and some days are worse than others, it just so happens that this year has been exceptionally bad.

    Ive not walked off a boat with more than 3 fish this year, only had two trips and two cancelled for weather, previous years had some great days, but thats how it goes. I only get to fish once a month and i really look forward to my days fishing, i book my trip and once on board i know the skipper will try his best to find us fish, the day that doesn't happen is the day i will stop going. Thats why i don't fish out of Brid anymore.

    I have been nervous about reporting a poor days fishing, don't want people looking in and thinking sod it won't book, i have never left negative comments about a skipper cos i dont have any, but as i said some may look deeper and think that particular skipper aint any good but then are these people just intrested in filling a freezer?

    Yes we all want to catch some nice fish and the skippers will try there best but if they aren't there its gonna be hard, my next trip is on Saturday with Mick on Avante and i know he will be giving 100% and i for one can't wait.

    To me a days fishing is about enjoying yourselves :happy: :happy:
     
  19. Captainahab

    Captainahab New Member

    Agree with you Dolphin. If you were guaranteed to fill a sack on every trip, there would be a years waiting list on every boat!.
     
  20. robq

    robq Rockling

    I fished with Rich Cope on mistress on monday for the 1st time as 1 of a party of 6

    It wasnt a great start to the day when the other party of 6 had let him down :angry:

    still at least we had a bit more room even if Rich was only going to cover his costs at best :sad:

    He worked his socks off all day working wrecks from north to south tirelessly !!

    BUT you can only catch whats there !! which unfortunatley at the moment isnt a boatfull !! I managed 2 ling and a cod and most lads around the same, but Rich still managed to put Mick onto the 2nd placed fish (Ling) of the day :yes:

    A great skipper who knows his stuff and works tirelessly all day :yes:
     

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