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Stealth Kayaks In The UK - UPDATE

Discussion in 'Sea Fishing Forum - Shore, Boat & Kayak Fishing' started by Chris-NW, Apr 20, 2012.

  1. Chris-NW

    Chris-NW Whitby Fishing Forum _ Simply The Best

    Just to give all an update about on the Stealth kayaks.

    A lot has been happening this week, we managed to get a better price on all levels by working with the manufacturer down to getting the kayaks here in the UK. This is very good news as I can now pass that saving onto you by reducing the prices on all kayaks. If you ordered a kayak with the previous price you will only be charged the new price and not the old - cant be fairer than that.

    All kayaks comes with a full 12 month warranty for defective workmanship etc.

    The next lot is coming over near the end of next month with roughly 3 or so weeks at sea, if you want a custom colour / design (all included) it takes about 3 weeks to build so keep that in mind if you want to meet the next shipping date.

    All new prices is on http://www.stealthkayaks.co.uk so check it out, I will be updating a lot of info among other things on the website in the next few weeks when I get a little bit of time.

    Some of you guys have mentioned some concern about the rudder if it breaks, speaking to the manufacturer I have been assured there is almost a zero precent chance of that happening, it's never been an issue in South africa or in Australia where they import them by the container load, check them out for independent reviews etc..

    Here is a few pics for your viewing pleasure, some nice colours and designs there.

    The all new Pro Fisha 575, at 25kg she is very light for such a long kayak, unfortunately I don't have many pics of her yet but will do in the weeks coming. Also another Pro Fisha model is currently in development to go with the 575, I will report on that in the coming weeks.

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    The CNC machine at work, creating another Stealth kayak.

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    As somebody mentioned to me earlier, "Barefoot paddling and tuna...we in the wrong country for sure. Ha ha!"
    Thats PF 575's on the road.

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    Thanks for reading..
     
  2. newdave

    newdave Guest

    Re: Stealth - UPDATE

    impressive kit, but its interesting to see than a PFD is an optional extra in SA :whatever:
     
  3. andym

    andym Rockling

    Re: Stealth - UPDATE

    A PFD would only slow down a Great white attack not stop it :whistle:
     
  4. Sambo

    Sambo To the MAX!

    Re: Stealth - UPDATE

    :laugh: :laugh:

    Not something you have to worry about with Billet Andy.

    VERY nice looking yaks and if I had the money I'd buy one :yes:
     
  5. andym

    andym Rockling

    Re: Stealth - UPDATE

    I do like the look and new lower price of these but still have some concerns that would make me more likely choose another Kaskazi over these for my next Yak
     
  6. Chris-NW

    Chris-NW Whitby Fishing Forum _ Simply The Best

    Re: Stealth - UPDATE

    Hi Andy, what are the concerns you have if you don't mind me asking?
     
  7. andym

    andym Rockling

    Re: Stealth - UPDATE

    Nothing major and I am no expert the only thing that would concern/niggle me would be the following:



    The seating position in the photos appear to be quite high where I am used to being tucked well down low in the kaskazi which helps in the rough


    The bow doesn't look like it has much lift which could hinder your momentum and zap your energy paddling into a choppy sea unlike the kayaks I am used to the Dorado's bow rides high over any chop where as my prowler ultra had less lift in the bow and was noticeably hindered in any chop but still had a noticeable lift towards the bow


    The rudder/skeg is non retractable IF you had a rudder cable snap at sea the rudder would be flopping around or stay left/right which could hamper paddling back.





    I have not paddled one and hope you aren't offended by these comments as they look very good pieces of kit indeed and maybe you could quash these concerns as I am sure you have had a fair bit of practical experience with them

    Andy
     
  8. Welsh wizard

    Welsh wizard if you don't know you don't need to know

    Re: Stealth - UPDATE

    i know someone who has one he said its best kayak he's paddled I'm going to have a go of his if i like it i will be getting 1
    i like the 465 evolution
     
  9. quint

    quint Watch out Emperor Zorg's about

    Re: Stealth - UPDATE

    Are these the "next generation" kayaks Buzz?
     
  10. Welsh wizard

    Welsh wizard if you don't know you don't need to know

    Re: Stealth - UPDATE

    i don't know quint but I'm going to have a serious look
     
  11. Chris-NW

    Chris-NW Whitby Fishing Forum _ Simply The Best

    Re: Stealth - UPDATE

    Hi Andy

    Sorry for the late reply but was away for a bit…

    Let me start by saying that I am no expert paddler etc but here is my opinion and only fair to point out that it might be biased as I am involve with Stealth.

    Regarding the seating position. While the seating position is higher than the Dorado as you mentions the Evolutions are still very stable, the flat hull and low seating position lowers the centre of gravity, stability was not compromised with these kayaks as the they were made for big game fish in open water normally while sitting side saddle… The only way is for one to have a paddle to confirm it for yourself whether it suites you…

    The stealths ride over the chop very nicely, they are designed to paddle all day long trolling lures so efficiency is very important, I paddled in a nice chop last weekend and found it a very smooth ride if I may say so. The only thing is that depending which way you hit the chop you might have some minor hull slap, nothing hectic. Have you seen the Evolution video here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e783poL52ZE&context=C49c895dADvjVQa1PpcFP-c2MjOCPV7a7eSUndAjC9i4ru8kS4F5s= again trying it out for yourself will answer those questions for you very quickly.

    The rudder and the protective skeg is not retractable as you say, so obviously you have to maintain the steering cables which can easily be check by opening the small hatch at the stern which gives you access to the rudder controls. Fortunately it's never been an issue as the amount of Stealth kayaks in SA and around the world have proofed but thats not saying it could never happen. Simply put if you inspect the steering cables every now and then I cant see a problem.

    The other advantage of having the rudder setup like this is because the rudder is located under the hull away from the stern the positioning of the rudder means that it will maintain contact with the water even in rough conditions. The more traditional rudder, mounted overhanging the end of the kayak, can lose contact with the water when the stern is rising up and down in swell.

    Have a look at this forum, http://www.akff.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=31155 I selected the first post that came up so its a old one but there are thousands of posts on that forum, you will find a lot of independent reviews there also you can ask those lads what they think of your concerns and see what they say.


    Hope that answers some of your concerns

    Cheers
     
  12. Chris-NW

    Chris-NW Whitby Fishing Forum _ Simply The Best

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    Hi Quint, obviously as you can see these are the kayaks of choice for the serious tournament anglers in SA etc, a lot went into the design to make them excellent fishing platforms with speed, stability and storage. However Stealth have now launched a new range of very fast and very light kayaks called the Pro Fisha Range, not to be confused with the normal Fisha's.

    The Pro fish 575 is a kayak they have spent over six months developing and designing. They introduced a few new features on the internal build of the kayak which they also in turn have to use the CNC machine to assist with. On the material side of the Pro Fisha it was decided to make the kayak itself with premium materials they have available to use allowing them to keep the build weight down on about 20 % in weight over a std fibreglass construction kayak. Vinylester epoxy resin systems are used giving us a stronger resin system as well. A specialised core system and fibreglass cloth are also used giving us a better weight without reducing any strength.

    For a glass kayak of 5.75m (18.8 feet) thats very light, with another model coming soon the weight will be reduced even more… I will have a lot of pics coming soon from the Pro Fisha's as Africa's biggest and richest tournament is about to kick off in Mozambique, so lots of composite porn...
     
  13. newdave

    newdave Guest

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    So if we hang on for a few months there could be a lightly used second hand one for sale then ? :wink: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
     
  14. andym

    andym Rockling

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    Cheers for the info and Replies Chris I did look earlier at a video of one in some choppy conditions and it did seem to handle very well, competition in the fibreglass fishing market can only be a good thing to us the customer.



    Thanks Andy
     
  15. andym

    andym Rockling

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    :whistle: :whistle: :whistle: :whistle: :whistle: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
     
  16. Davo

    Davo Rockling

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    I would have thought Stealth kayaks would be too fragile for buzz.
     
  17. daveh

    daveh Whitby Fishing Forum _ Simply The Best

    Re: Stealth - UPDATE

    Interesting thread! I have paddled both these yaks i.e. Stealth Evo 465 and Kaskazi Dorado and they both have their pros and cons like anything!! The big difference between them both is the sitting position. I find the Dorado has a lovely position for paddling with good back support and easy access to the fish hatch between your legs. If you like fishing in the paddling position then the Dorado is fine.
    If on the other hand you like to move about the yak and fish side saddle or sit reverse and have very easy access to both hatches the Evo is the one for you. You don't sit in it, you sit on it and it makes life much easier as a fishing platform. Some people may think this may make it more unstable but it don't. The stealth has a bow like a Maxi yacht designed to push through waves while maintaining a good forward speed, I felt the Dorado was designed to ride up over the wave and keep the paddler dry. I don't mind a bit of spray if it allows me to keep good forward speed and still stay very dry really.
    I wanted a yak for drift fishing and plugging for bass. Something which was affordable, comfortable ,light and fast. In the end I chose a Evo 465 for the above reasons and I'm very happy with it.
    To sum up, both these yaks are great! It depends what you want to use it for in my opinion. All said in the end you make your choice and pay your money but now you have a choice so take your time paddle both and enjoy.
    Remember .. Glass is class!!
     
  18. Welsh wizard

    Welsh wizard if you don't know you don't need to know

    Re: Stealth - UPDATE

    if i buy one dave i won't be selling it i like the look of them I'm going to have a go of one first
     
  19. stonefish

    stonefish Any fool can criticise , complain and most fool do

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    im saving up for one of these they look great ! and the reports seem good too
    it must be pretty comfy because you can sit side saddle too
     
  20. Welsh wizard

    Welsh wizard if you don't know you don't need to know

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    the thing is davo and andym the ground some of us fish there are very large boulders you wouldn't want to land any fibre class kayak on them its like self rescues you can do as many as you like in a duck pond but in the tide round flambrough is a whole new ball game with the tide steaming through if you don't believe me come on down and see it for your selves
     

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