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Pirk Fishing By Rupert

Discussion in 'Sea Fishing Forum - Shore, Boat & Kayak Fishing' started by Baramundi Bob, Feb 20, 2010.

  1. Baramundi Bob

    Baramundi Bob Super Leeds United !!!

  2. dan the pollock

    dan the pollock Rockling

    what a cracking report rupert well done
  3. Sambo

    Sambo To the MAX!

    Excellent article, me thinks I might have to try a few pirks this summer :wink:
  4. biscuitlad

    biscuitlad Guest

    Very nice read. Must admit, I now always take the treble off and fish with a single hook on a braided loop. You can bounce your pirk off the bottom in rough ground and hardly ever use it. Hook ups seem pretty good. Do you never combine your pirk with a string of hokkais above? The hokkais often work better than the pirk itself.
  5. rupert

    rupert Blenny

    Thanks - its nice to hear you enjoyed reading it!

    I've found exactly the same with single hooks, though a small proportion of my cod do get foul hooked. (They still taste just as good in the pan though!!) :canadian: :canadian: Sometimes I hook what I think is a monster, only for a cod to come up to the surface sideways, hooked amidships 'by the shirt pockets'!

    As long as I feel confident that there are a few cod to be had, I much prefer to fish with a single quality pirk. Whenever I do fish with a string of hokkais above a pirk, I only use that rig for prospecting when the fishing is hard, but more times than not, I end up regretting doing it. The hokkais are either mobbed by whiting or small coalies, that I don't want (and waste valuable cod fishing time) or when I get fast on the bottom, the first thing to snap tends to be the hokkaii trace, and I curse this weak link in the setup.

    The other thing about using any form of lure trace/lures above the pirk is that in a proportionate way, I find it catches the tide and makes the line 'stream' faster than it would otherwise with a single pirk. It also, in my opinion, impedes the drop speed (and therefore the effectiveness) of the action of a shaped pirk. Straight pirks, though will be unaffected.

    Over the years, I've tried allsorts of lures on a trace above the pirk, and whilst I've had a few 'bonus' fish, 95% of all fish I've caught on these setups have taken the pirk at the bottom and the 5% 'bonus' catch have invariably been unwanted nuisance fish, like small whiting.

    The other thing is that nowadays, I prefer to fish for sport, rather than provide for the table. Whilst I still enjoy taking something home to cook, I find playing one fish at a time far more pleasant on light gear, rather than pulling two or more fish up at the same time.
  6. carpyken

    carpyken New Member

    What an excellent article, who needs magazines when you can read quality like that on our own website....

    I'm guilty of being pre-occupied with lead head/twintail and shad fishing. Will give it a go this summer as the waters clear.

  7. Shadrap

    Shadrap Rockling

    Another great article Rupert and I echo your sentiments about using light gear for pirking.I have been looking at the various moulds available to make some lighter pirks that will have a bit of life to them when worked.Last year we had some excellent sport in Norway using pirks to 150g (usually around 100g) on heavy spinning rods in depths to around 40m.This set up proved effective for pirk casting when the breeze was pushing us along at a rate of knots.



    As you can see there's no need to out gun the fish you expect to catch.

    Have you ever tried pirk casting at all Rupert,I would be interested to hear any advice you might have on the subject.
    Askari fishing sometimes have cracking deals on lighter pirks though some require the hardware to be changed.
  8. Baramundi Bob

    Baramundi Bob Super Leeds United !!!

    When you fish with Killer in summer, he often casts, which is the likely reason he outfishes most of the other anglers
  9. rupert

    rupert Blenny

    I always cast the pirk - it certainly gives you far more 'vertical' time, but if you're on a charter boat, only a few are safely in a position to do this - for that reason, I didn't list it in my top tips - but yes, I'm with you 100%!
  10. Baramundi Bob

    Baramundi Bob Super Leeds United !!!

  11. rupert

    rupert Blenny

    Have you ever tried pirk casting at all Rupert,I would be interested to hear any advice you might have on the subject.
    Askari fishing sometimes have cracking deals on lighter pirks though some require the hardware to be changed.

    Just had a look at the Askari website to look at pirks and what did I find but those Eisele select pirks! I'm still using the last of a big batch of them I bought 10 years ago, but once those are gone at least I know where to look. That's brilliant, because I'd given up being able to source them again in the UK! They're quite a bit dearer than the batch I bought 10 years ago though!

  12. Sambo

    Sambo To the MAX!

    At £7 a pop I think I'll have to stick with my jigheads for now :cheesy:
  13. dan the pollock

    dan the pollock Rockling

    you tight git sam, its cheaper than a maria chase :happy:
  14. Sambo

    Sambo To the MAX!

    Aye, but I won't be working a maria chase 80ft down on rough ground :wink:
  15. newdave

    newdave Guest

    Thanks Rupert, excellent read.
    I was interested in the left hand reel idea but have decided to use a fixed spool reel for my jigging now but for the reasons given, gets to the bottom quicker & you are holding the rod with the strong hand. Weather permitting the the Kayak Wreck fishing will be on the agenda again this summer. unfortunetly we need to have a weak link as breaking out any more than 20lb is not really possible. Do you ever use a breakaway on the hook to save loosing the perk ?
  16. rupert

    rupert Blenny

    I've tried those plastic breakway 'lure savers' in the past, but found a lot break just pushing the treble hook into the open joint, so I ditched those. I've also tried using much lighter split rings, but found the breaking strain a bit inconsisent.

    I've also experimented with coarse fishing pole elastic, by tying a short length of this to the top eye of the pirk, stretching it and running it down the side of the pirk and out of the bottom hook attatchment where the split ring on the hook holds the elastic in tension. This set up worked quite well as long as the elastic was fresh, but once it aged it perished, the elastic broke too early. Once you got a fish on it was quite funny, because it was like being on a bungee cord. Used fresh, this pole elastic was quite a good setup though. You can also double it up for higher breaking strains too.
  17. quint

    quint Watch out Emperor Zorg's about

    Good article Rupert, very well structured - you can't beat a bit of jigging, had many days out on Shy Torque in the past, it didn't take us long to suss out the best place on the boat was the stern so you could cast, had to be there early though and miss the fry up at Bill's Cafe
  18. loz

    loz Whitby Fishing Forum _ Simply The Best

    That is an absolutely fantastic report Rupert ,I wonder have you tryed the swedish speed jigs/ripping pirks that have a single hook at the top, they seem to work well for bass ,and pollock over wrecks on the south coast ,i go mine from veals
  19. kirkby lad

    kirkby lad New Member

    brillianf article rupert, swithced to left handers (abu) last summer especialy when working a shad, kept wanting to switch to right hand to control dropping the weight and shad back down. Not tried pirk casting i think spawny bass might be right with the fixed spool, which do you use
  20. biscuitlad

    biscuitlad Guest

    The cod, it's certain, tend to end up on the pirk. But the only nuisance fish I usually hook are mackerel on the hokkais - hardly unwelcome!

    But I just wonder if the hokkais don't act as "teasers". So a fish sees the pirk as something chasing fry, or maybe the hokkais also attract other smaller fish, and the cod comes along and eats the biggest, easiest meal it can, which is the pirk?

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