Cheers Howard. No doubt you are right. I had to make a similar post once before and no doubt it will happen again in the future. This forum is for anglers and I feel we have plenty of them, the forum is for people to post up about their catches and share experiences, tactics, and even marks if Big cliff can get the info from them but I don't want it going the same way as the sea angling sections on many forums with people scarred to post about their catches. If you catch a fish you are right to be proud and show the rest of us. I have no problem with people starting topics to discuss the rights and wrongs of killing a fish but If people make a post about their catch please either give them the pat on the back they deserve or if that aint possible then just refrain from posting. Howard we both used to be regulars on another internet forum, and we witnessed over a couple of years the numbers of posters dropping off due to the hassel they got from other forum members, now all that forum consists of is sad gits who campaign to have us all stopped from taking fish and its pointless posting. This will not be happening here.