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Diners must think big to save our Sea Bass

Discussion in 'Sea Fishing Forum - Shore, Boat & Kayak Fishing' started by bassman, Jun 27, 2015.

  1. bassman

    bassman Administrator

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  2. J.R.HARTLEY

    J.R.HARTLEY Whitby Fishing Forum _ Simply The Best

    The size limit of cod should also be increased for the same reasons ;)
     
  3. brian carragher

    brian carragher Whitby Fishing Forum _ Simply The Best

    What a piece of tosh that article is, bass for the table are largley farmed and imported and any increase in mls will have no impact at all on the small plate size bass currently served up for dinner at restaurants or diners, the same size bass will still be served if the mls was 50cm, it will have zero effect on the food trade as imported farmed fish are exempt from any regulation and will continue to be so

    Bass as a species do spawn at a size smaller than 36cm and always have done, the BMP as submitted by BASS ( the society) confirms such a thing as backed up by their own research and indipendant scientific research but they (BASS) prefer not to mention that fact

    Be very wary of BASS and their aims and ambitions
     
  4. smokey

    smokey Rockling

    A fantastic and well written reply brian,hit the nail on the head, my mrs works in a wet fish shop and the vast majority of times when local bass isn't available, they get imported plate sized farmed bass from greece, which i will say looks like sh1t.

    For those people on here who've been here from the early days of the forum,they will remember the likes of leon roskilly from BASS or SACN, they are uneducated idiots who have no serious comprehension of the way fishing works, the majority of them are in it for nothing more than feathering their own nests, so they can sit on some well paid government advisory board. Be VERY carefull of these fools, they are not in it for anglers, they are in it for themselves.
     
  5. poundandahalf

    poundandahalf Whitby Fishing Forum _ Simply The Best

    I don't catch that many bass but it always amazes me that the cod Mls is so small. Once head and tailed the fillets on a just mls cod are tiny I put all these back and only keep those that are well over.
     
  6. lipslicker

    lipslicker Whitby Fishing Forum _ Simply The Best

    Yes, Smokey knows best.
    Bass stocks are in rude health, because Smokey says so.
    Yeh, right!
    And, you say they are only in it to 'feather their own nest' and are 'uneducated idiots'?The irony.

    I know who I am listening to, and it is the scientists, because the commercial sector have been shown again and again to deny issues and carry on regardless until there is literally nothing left. Bluefin in the North Sea and Cod in Newfoundland being just two of any number of examples.
     
  7. smokey

    smokey Rockling

    What a tit
     
  8. navmanfish

    navmanfish Whitby Fishing Forum _ Simply The Best

    Yes, Smokey knows best.

    amen brother, keep the sermon going,

    educating us all to the issues known best to those in the know (good lad martin)

    bri also correct & up to date on local supply/demand to restaurants.

    over 20 yrs ago bass farms on keffolonia were exporting small bass for the uk market

    these also looked so "sad" in size & appearance no one who has caught/ despatched/eaten

    their own bass would give any of these poor specimens a luck in even as a pot bait of last resort.

    just let common sense prevail
     
  9. wilky

    wilky Blenny

    Never understood the need to take bass for the pot anyway - the odd ones I have been lucky enough to bag have been largely flavourless and even tough. There are much better eating fish that are more readily available and (currently) sustainable. Any bass I catch now go back
     
  10. glassback

    glassback Blenny

    it has now been passed so there is now a inEU raises minimum size of northern sea bass
    (02/07/2015) The EU has today taken another step to protect sea bass stocks in Europe. The 28 EU member states agreed to the Commission's proposal to increase the minimum size for northern sea bass from 36 to 42 cm.
    The new rule applies to both commercial and recreational fishermen. This will further improve the protection of this valuable stock and give it more chances to reproduce young fish before it is caught. The Commission will now proceed with the adoption of the agreed measures.

    The Commission had also proposed to increase the minimum size for the two southern stocks of sea bass in Iberian waters and the Bay of Biscay. Member states however pointed to the less robust data available on these stocks.

    The Commission will therefore ask for renewed scientific advice on the southern stocks, which will feed into new proposals on sea bass from 2016 onwards.

    Sea bass is a high value, iconic species for recreational and commercial fishermen alike. But stocks in the EU are seriously under threat. Scientists agree that catches of this species must be drastically reduced, as a result of greater fishing pressure and lower reproduction.

    Today's decision is the latest step in a package of measures the Commission has proposed for 2015 to halt the decline of this stock and prepare the way forward for further management measures in 2016.

    Previous steps include a short-term ban on pelagic trawling, a 3-fish bag limit for recreational fishermen and, for the remainder of 2015, a monthly catch limit and an area closure around Ireland for commercial fishing.


    More information
    How is the EU protecting sea bass?
    Questions & answers
    Protecting sea bass (infographic)

    crease in size limits all round
     
  11. brian carragher

    brian carragher Whitby Fishing Forum _ Simply The Best

    There goes the first nail in the coffin
     
  12. glassback

    glassback Blenny

    its about time it was done to
    now it needs doing with other fish to
     
  13. DiscoMick

    DiscoMick Eat Fishing, Sleep Fishing, Drink BEER

    Totally agree 10000%....mick. :mad:
     
  14. rdngd

    rdngd Whitby Fishing Forum _ Simply The Best

    Its a shame we cant learn from our cousins over the pond where in the US they have found out the best way to grow fish stocks has been the introduction of slot limits where large fish have to put back as well as small fish. It has been proven more than once its been more important to protect the large fish which are female than the small fish which are mostly male. This could also as in the US be inforced in the commercial market as well. Yes I know a 10 lb bass is a fish of a life time but when the angler kills that fish he is often killing thousands of unborn fish as well, you often see in the press large dead bass heavy with roe. Now in the UK vast amounts of large bass are caught on rod and line by the commercial sector and all these could go back to spawn.
     
  15. lipslicker

    lipslicker Whitby Fishing Forum _ Simply The Best

    Very reassuring there are a few sensible contributors.

    Mass slaughter of wild animals for profit always ends in disaster.
     
  16. brian carragher

    brian carragher Whitby Fishing Forum _ Simply The Best

    Here we are 3 years later and how do we as anglers stand?

    Well we can fish for bass but we cant land any

    Meanwhile the commercial sector is largely immune from draconian cuts to their catch/bycatch

    Wonder how long it'll take for the penny to drop that we as anglers have been the sacrificial lamb to appease the conservationists that something has been done to protect bass stocks without addressing the real problem
     
  17. WetLine

    WetLine Whitby Fishing Forum _ Simply The Best

    David Mitchell, Head of Marine at the Angling Trust, said:
    “We are pleased that the proposed six month ban recreational fishing for bass was rejected and members of the public will be able to continue to fish for bass in 2018 on a catch & release basis all year round. Charter skippers, bass angling guides and other businesses reliant on bass angling at least now have some certainty and can plan ahead for 2018"

    Current State: Bass fishing guidance 2018

    There are no future promises - all we can hope is that they bias fishery management for bass survival & against the commercials that really do the damage. We should kick up a fuss if they try to disadvantage us again.
     
  18. brian carragher

    brian carragher Whitby Fishing Forum _ Simply The Best

    If David Mitchell thinks the current situation is a win for anglers then he needs to find a red hot poker and brace his self, it sort of sums up the Angling Trust's whole approach to sea angling and sea anglers
     
  19. WetLine

    WetLine Whitby Fishing Forum _ Simply The Best

    Going up against well financed, vested interests is never easy - Do you have an alternative approach ?
     
  20. brian carragher

    brian carragher Whitby Fishing Forum _ Simply The Best

    It sems like you have something to say without actually saying it, if thats the case then just come out and say it
     

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