went down "bird ash" a few years ago with shorty.had a look at descent today to refresh my memory.bloody hell!,i must have been on space cake to have done it! i think i will give it a miss this year(and any other year come to think of it). anyone that hasnt done it before and is thinking of having a go be warned- one slip and its THE END! theres no second chances. on a lighter note,went fossiling with the family at Speeton and got some nice specimens.found one called a Ramrodocus.its very small and inflated looking and is incrusted with crystals.