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Anarchy in London, shoot the shits

Discussion in 'Non Fishing Chat' started by harrythecod, Aug 7, 2011.

  1. Supersonic

    Supersonic Whitby Bass Club

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    What evidence do you have for this?

    I'd be very disappointed if it was true. You'd like to think that any officers suspected of having views like this would be investigated, and if the suspicions were proved to be correct they would be removed from the force.

    The media loves to twist and turn things like this, and doesn't help anything. On the BBC they were interviewing people from some of the affected areas in London, and they were saying things like 'if I walk down the street with my hood up, the Police stop and search me. It's against my human rights. It's because I'm black.' Bollocks! It's because you're walking round dressed like the stereotype of a criminal! If you don't wanna be searched, don't attract attention to yourself by looking shady!
     
  2. DiscoMick

    DiscoMick Eat Fishing, Sleep Fishing, Drink BEER

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    Very true kev,i'm afraid they've got no sympathy vote from me,nothing but a load of waster's,i was unfortunate to be involved in the miner's strike,and it's a pity the police didn't give them a piece of what some of my mates received,lad's that had never committed a crime in there lives,except fighting for their family's futures,funny enough i never saw one pakistani,jamaican,or chinese miner on the picket lines,the only foreigner's i saw where in the met police who where brought up north to cope with the trouble maker's,strangely enough the trouble only started when they arrived,i think the waving of wage packet's and remark's like "eat grass"may have had something to do with it,just the right word's to lad's that where about to loose everything they owned,....many ended up in prison they where the lucky ones,,,,,sadly a few more took their own lives....so like i said no sympathy from me...mick.
     
  3. Baramundi Bob

    Baramundi Bob Super Leeds United !!!

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    Im always pretty objective with these things. But just to throw something else into the debate. Do the people calling for rioters to be shot realise how hypocritical that would be of a government fighting a war in Libya allegedly based on a leader turning arms on his own people. :tease:
     
  4. harrythecod

    harrythecod Rockling

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    More crap about not having a job :angry: well let me tell you ,
    i worked in the iron and stell industry as a crane driver from being 17years old until i was 30,
    maggie thatcher cost me my job , i did not riot and did not go about steeling ,

    i struggled and struggled for about 5 years to get my small buisness going ,
    and was proud of every penny i made , my familly struggled with me and reaped the rewards together ,

    now i dodnt have any gcse o levels in fact i have no qualifications apart from determination to get on,

    so it can be done if you are willing to try :yes:
     
  5. DiscoMick

    DiscoMick Eat Fishing, Sleep Fishing, Drink BEER

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    Trouble is harry you and me and thousand's like us were brought up in an era where people where taught "RESPECT" and moral's from day one,sadly those day's are dwindling away....i know exactly where your coming from,but don't put yourself in the same bracket as these people....i don't know you personally,but what glen say's is right.....taking lives any live's would only make martyr's out of them.. but when they do get to the bottom of it(and i'm sure they will)....then they must pay back to society what they have taken,they just cant stick them in jail for a short while..and then set them free to become local"hero's"put them to task make them work,i dont mean find them a job down at tesco's, plenty of trash knocking about the countryside...maybe even boot camp's....i dont really know the answer...but one thing's for sure this sort of crap need's stamping out...the sooner the better.
     
  6. Supersonic

    Supersonic Whitby Bass Club

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    My old man has told me stories of how coppers walked down the street to the picket and smashed all the windows of the miners cars with their truncheons as they did. When things are genuinely that hard, I can see how some people had to steal to support their families, not that it's the right thing to do, but I've never heard tales of mindless looting. I'd just been born and we had no coal for the heating in the house, nothing. These scumbags doing the looting today don't know they're born, they'll never have as hard as you lads did in the strike.


    A) Lackeys of a terrorist supporting dictator shooting people protesting against an oppressive regime. They're using live ammo, which is very likely to kill them. 40% of the population are below the poverty line (even though the country has huge oil reserves, filling the pockets of Gadaffi and his supporters) and there is no freedom of speech. People such as doctors and teachers are barely paid enough to support their families, and other workers even less.

    B) Police shooting thugs, who are rioting because they're no longer have respect for society. They're using rubber bullets which will certainly hurt, but are unlikely to kill them. These cretins, and their parents, receive money from the government for doing nothing other than sitting on their idle arses.

    Not quite the same thing :confused:
     
  7. quint

    quint Watch out Emperor Zorg's about

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    [/quote]their parents, receive money from the government for doing nothing other than sitting on their idle arses.

    Not quite the same thing :confused:



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    One's a teaching assistant Kev
     
  8. bucko

    bucko New Member

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    Well, because one of those three groups is known for enjoying organised violence on a regular basis.
    Maybe if you'd seen the footage of them with their EDL chants you'd agree that they were out to fight, not defend.
     
  9. Supersonic

    Supersonic Whitby Bass Club

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    If they were chanting and out to fight with the rioters, would this not be defending? :wink: As long as they don't start being racist and fighting with any old Tom Dick and Harry I really don't mind it.
     
  10. bucko

    bucko New Member

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    Seriously mate- they saw that there might be the chance of a ruck, and one they would get away with under the current circumstances.

    Let me get one thing straight though- when I discuss things I am not rubbishing others opinions at all and seriously consider the points others may have.
    But with everything thats going on there are sinister types lurking in the wings who specialise in the sort of politics that silence others views- and that is what really worries me.
    Don't get me wrong- its the rioters who are giving them ammo and I think the damage done to our right to an impartial and balanced view will far outweigh the physical and economic damage to our city centres.

    I was a bit emotive of it on Tuesday- but I had an ignorant bigot think it was OK to push his twisted views on me (a total stranger) in the pub on Tuesday using the most vile terms. This was about ten minutes after I had got off the phone to a very good, kind, hard working and gentle friend with her roots in Ghana who is going through a course of chemo at present.
    I felt insulted, violated and angered by this idiot who was using the current situation to try and incite more hate and violence.
    Still disgusted now- hence my strong feelings on how I think we as supposed proud people should react to this.
     
  11. harrythecod

    harrythecod Rockling

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    old Tom Dick and Harry HEY leave me out of this :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
     
  12. Supersonic

    Supersonic Whitby Bass Club

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    This is the major worry isn't it mate. The last thing we need is people falling into the traps that will doubt be set by Griffin and co. Some certainly will, as it's easy for them to blame ethnic groups. This is where it's the responsibility of the media to ensure fair and even coverage, showing the predominantly white rioters in manchester, and not just black kids down south.

    I feel sorry that you had to listen to that sh-te from that clown in the pub. Hopefully one day he'll be embarrassed about it.
     
  13. Supersonic

    Supersonic Whitby Bass Club

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    :laugh:
     
  14. Baramundi Bob

    Baramundi Bob Super Leeds United !!!

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    Funny how 2 similar situations can be portrayed in a very different manner, its all about perception and what our media choose to feed us Kev. Read far and wide on Gadaffi and what he has done for other African nations in terms of aid etc, read about the best health service in Africa. What our press decide to tell us and what is the truth can be very different things depending on the agenda, which in this case is oil.

    Will be interesting to watch how it all pans out. I doubt for one moment the government will turn arms on its own people. The underclass as they have been termed in much of the press are already well pissed off with the lack of opportunity in modern society, I dont think the gvernement want to give them any more reason to kick off.

    Was talking to a guy yesterday, and he felt the same as me and said it was only a matter of time before it all kicked off in the inner cities. That these situations usually follow a conservative government coming into power after a long time in opposition. Its very reminiscent of the early 80's. What followed was years of discontent, especially for the north east with destruction of our industry and mortgage rates hitting 15% with huge negative equity and families loosing their homes etc. What will peoples views be if all that comes around again ? Im certainly holding off buying again because of it.
     
  15. Baramundi Bob

    Baramundi Bob Super Leeds United !!!

  16. Ian Alexander

    Ian Alexander Whitby Fishing Forum _ Simply The Best

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    Well I'm right behind these protesters smashing up our capital city, it's about time this government were taught a lesson, I hope they burn the whole place to the ground!!

    Hold on a minute......what's that you say!!! They're going to cancel the football fixtures............get back in your cages you savages, show some damn respect, turn on the water cannons, lock them all up and throw away the bloody keys!!!!
     
  17. quint

    quint Watch out Emperor Zorg's about

  18. Supersonic

    Supersonic Whitby Bass Club

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    I did a fair bit of reading up on Gadaffi when it all started kicking off in Libya. True, he has used SOME of his country's income in very good ways, he's improved the standard of living there in the last 40 years and provided running water to communities etc. But lets not forget, that while his citzens live in poverty, unable to speak out without being thrown in jail or even worse simply disappearing, he and his mates live like kings. There are indeed parallels with our own country at the moment, but it's nowhere near the same situation in my opinion.

    In terms of the 'underclass' and their opprtunities, people can make anything they want of themselves. My girlfriend was brought up by her mum with 4 brothers and sisters and had very very little. Far worse than most of these little toerags. However, she didn't destroy and steal, she chose to make something of herself. She's been working 5 jobs to support her pHD in educational psychology for the last couple of years. I've got friends with worse childhoods than a lot of people can imagine, and they have never comitted a crime in their lives, and they hold down good jobs. People can't feel sorry for themselves because of the choices they make. If you choose not to have any ambition, you can't complain if you never achieve anything.
     
  19. Ian Alexander

    Ian Alexander Whitby Fishing Forum _ Simply The Best

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    Have another look.........it's a joke man!! Skunkhead I was just trying to inject a little bit of humour into thread that's got a little bit heated at times.
    It's a very serious subject that will drag you down if you dwell on it too much.......sometimes it's good to laugh a bit, whatever the situation.

    Regards Ian
     
  20. Baramundi Bob

    Baramundi Bob Super Leeds United !!!

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    well said Ian. Maybe we all disagree but we must stay friends. Humour is always good or life will drag you down.
     

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