Glenn with regards the pollock I took from Ravenscar I caught I think a dozen one trip and more the second trip, I caught I think five from the shore down there. I took two, because that was enough for me to eat, I respected the fact that others may wish to enjoy the sport, I respected the fact that no one has a right to kill any animal and throw it away. I 100% agree with you about no one preaching catch and release and no one should ever tell anyone they have no right to take a fish for the table. But to kill any fish to make a point is wrong and yes I disagree with you and that is what forums are about members expressing different views but if this forum was to promote a "catch and kill even if you throw it away" way of fishing I can't see that being in the forums interests. You are right not to be told to release the fish you catch but I don't think killng to make a point is right and that would give the anti's some real bullets to fire at us anglers... I have seen some posts in the past where folk have tried to preach c+r but they never stay around long. We all appreciate the hard work over the years the forum has been around that you have put in Glenn, but surely the forum is abount many different views and not just your own, this forum won t go the way of some of the others because the mods and you Glenn won't let it but I think one is not directing things in the right direction with this particular stance, you have put the point across before in a much less provocative manner .