I realise you are complete pasethist Iain and that is an amazing quality to own. I wish i had it because the bad side of me comes out to play when I meet people like mr Short. I love my fishing, and time with friends is all too infrequent, to have it spoilt by such an idiot, I see as an infringement on my right to fish with fredom at any given point in time. Perhaps other people shouldnt have spoke out as directly as they did, but also this type of thing should never go unchallenged either. I apologise for calling you deluded. That was a bit strong and Im sure when Face to face we will laugh about it. Fishing is for us all to enjoy and if iddiots like this are out to ruin the enjoyment of others they should be alienated untill they change their ways.