whats best?

[fire1160]

ok this may begin to start a disscussion list the pros and cons of owning a boat or a kayak whats best? with regards to cost and fishing ?

[Jellyworm]

Having never owned a boat a bit biased with my view but here goes,
The initial outlay for the fully fitted yak will be about the same that you could pick up a clean but not perfect small boat , from some of the ads I have seen anyway.
Some of the plus points of the yak are easy storage,easy transport to the sea from home and one person launching.
No launching or mooring fees.
Ability to access very shallow rocky inshore areas without risk of a shipwreck.
No large shadow cast from the hull or noise from the motor to scare fish off.
Able to quickly adapt to most of the fishing situations you could wish to try (other than off-shore)

Some negative points......can feel very vulnerable when out on your own.
If the weather turns and the wind catches you against tide then with only a paddle for power things potentially could be very dangerous,so understanding of tides and good preparation,including safety gear such as flares and radios just in-case.
Room on the yak limited so you have to be organised and it can be a real bum numb'er when sat for hours on end.
If you want to stay dry then yakking not the ideal pursuit,you will get wet from paddle spray,rain,tipping off surf,scupper holes etc....it is a watersport though.

Having got my yak last year I can say that altogether I would estimate the total I spent on the actual yak and clothing plus safety gear took me close to £2000 .....but it has been worth every penny.

There is nothing like getting a sea like glass with no wind and paddling out at sunrise on a summer morning with the prospect of a peaceful day starting off jigging for cod, then maybe trying a bit of jellyworm work for the pollock, pulling into a rocky bay for lunch before paddling to some of those secret areas for a shot at the Bass with light spinning gear (I will catch one this year!)

To anyone thinking of getting a yak....do your research (most of the lads on here,myself included will be only to happy to let you come have a look at what they are about and have a try) cos the last thing any of us want is someone ill prepared getting into trouble.Besides the obvious tragedy that could result, we don't want the nanny do good er's to start insisting on regulating the taking out of yaks on the sea....for me that freedom to paddle just about anywhere is what it is all about and it is the biggest "pro" for me.

Regards Jellyworm.

[Bassyken]

£2000 Dave?? Not far behind you I dont think - latest purchases : navigation light and seaworth plugs & sockets £56, waterproof digital camera £40, green n then orange marine box £35, rueben heaton 7000s digi scales £60, weigh net £8 ......and we better not talk about lures n stuff 

But the look on the wifes face when I bring yet summut else in.............priceless

[Willy Nelson]

I bought a Kayak bacuase I don't live near the coast and can chuck it in the garage for weeks at a time. I don't have the space for a boat or the cash to pay for a mooring. A kayak is by far the best way for me to get out on the water.

[robq]

The compound and launch fees, fuel and insurance is enough to put most poeple off buying a small boat, then you have the restritions regarding launch times and compounds closing over winter. I would have struggled to get a crew for days midweek when I am on my days off so in the end I decided a kayak was the way forward for me 

I have to say that it was definitely the right decision !! apart from the fantastic fishing for nowt ( after the initial outlay ) it is good exercise too    but the best bit is the freedom and independance it gives me

[bengunn426]

as been a tractor and boat owner on redcar sea front for three year, although registration was cheap,i was dogged with tractor problems most of the time,things got frustrating at times,and i always wished i had somethig a bit smaller, allthough i dont own a kayak,and see nothing wrong with them,you can get into places,and fish those shallow marks you woudnt probably go with a boat,so i down sized too a fourteen foot that i can push in the sea myself and go and fish those kelpi scaurs,the tractor cost more too maintain than anything prob one day ill  have a kayak when me boat gets stuck in the sand,gone are the days of steaming out past the horizon,some of usare content with not being to far out,and light tackle does,so does kayaking and small boats,good thing with kayaks no engines to maintain or luanching fees,or tractors packing up,mm,starting too fancy one meself,and some good fishing reports coming in from the kayaking lads on this forum.

[Baramundi Bob]

I dont have a kayak but soon will. One thing that appealed to me above all else is that thing about it being one man fishing in a natural way. No engines, no noise, no pollution, and your on the water not above it. Its a close to nature as you will get - I imagine 

[Jellyworm]

No Glenn you'll get much closer if you start as me,quint and ramrod did.....much closer !!
About time you got that yak Glenn .

[fire1160]

looks like a yak for me then in short this discussion was secretlly a way of makeing my mind up and the points that were made were all justified and have helped me understand the reason why kayaks are getting so popular and now i know it dosnt spoke the fish and to be honest its realy those bass im after lol ive also recived my brochure on yaks from outside persuits and that big game prowler looks like a very worthy contenstant once all my moneys togher im takeing a trip down to barmston and see what a deal he can do the only reason was behined the thoughts of a boat was to be able to take my freind with me but if i push him into getting his bottom wet in a yak then i still can do that point of not poluteing the water and the solitude was whats swayed it cheers again lads  and thankyou

[Dav]

Another gets bitten, good luck ....

[Ramrod]

It,s only a matter of time before you get one Dav  you keep looking at the yak posts with interest I,ve noticed  One good win on the match circuit this year   

[smokey]

Buy a small 14ft Dory you will never regret it.Our lass can launch and retrieve ours herself,very stable and safe,25knots with a 20 hp outboard and much more comfortable.When i am out and about trolling and jigging,a 25 litre tank will last me 4 or 5 trips.Keep it at home on the drive,so no storage fees,fish 3 blokes in comfort,but would only advise fishing close ish in,the same as a yak,they can get 99% of the places a kayak can go,as they only need about 6 inches of water to float.If you need to move marks to find the fish,you are there in no time,best of all,a nice clean little set up will cost you the same as a decently rigged yak.Loads less to get prepared for launching and fishing and loads less hassle,within 3 minutes of landing on the beach,the dory is on the trailer,strapped down and on its way home...simple....tight lines and it's only my opinion

[Dav]

  ,,,,you never know , stranger things have happened ........

[quint]

Think there's pluses and minuses on both sides, it's really down to personal preference or bank balance - I can see the advantages of small boats such as Smokies and there are a few about, there are times when I would love an engine to either get home or get to the next mark or drift quickly, the kayak is quite versatile where it goes, and like Rob says I love beaching in remote areas or on scars to have a break and a mooch around

Get a stealth green one Dav 

[Bassyken]

Heres an interesting link......it may be a fairly new sport in the uk but the Siberian eskimos have been kayak fishing for thousands of years 

http://www.coastmountainexpeditions.com/?q=node/141

[fire1160]

well ive been looking at my brochures lol outdoor active, theve got a full set up other then saftey gear eg flares radio jacket trousers life jacket and the all important rods lol its a prowler and that retails for 1300 so went with brochure in hand to freinds house and  belive he was gonna offer some outstanding advice  but instead he just looked with a blank impression on his face thats when he said he had been toying with the idea already so we both went at it over the cuppa with the plus and against for each includeing in my argument the advice id recived on hear and now you guess it everythings back in the air again im still toying with the idea of drowning my blumming m8 tho lol ive one m8 that wants a boat and another thats realy intressted in purchaseing a yak just on the off chance can someone please tell me are bass captured over a mile off the coast or do they hug the coastline and stay around the rocks n sand bars ? as its these that im realy aiming for but not in numbers just the accasinal meal
 

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