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[Baramundi Bob]

How important is casting in the winter cod scene ? Can short casters do well or are they wasting their time ? Under what conditions would the long distance caster fair best and are there situations where big hitters will do poorly ??

What's your thoughts ?

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[Intrepid Turtle]

Having read lots of info in the sea angler publications it would appear that only fishermen using the top rods and casting great distance can catch cod around the north east.

[Jellyworm]

You'll open the floodgates with that Glenn.

My opinion for what it is worth is having knowledge of the particular mark.
The advantage of having a good cast is that when you need to put the extra distance to the cast you can. For example,heavy seas say down on Ladygreen and you have two big breakers to get passed a head or strong cross wind then in those conditions having the power and technique in your cast pays off.

On the other hand fishing the recent summer open match with Rob we didn't use our heads for most of the match as we were casting out where we expected tghe fish to be and yet a couple of Scarborough lads were dropping 40-50 yds shorter and were on fish.....lesson learnt there.

So for me a big cast isn't the be all and end all but it is good to know that if you need to hit a big one then you can.But fish location and mark knowledge on the day are more important for me anyway.
The anglers with the real knowledge aren't always blasting baits out to the horizon,seen Whacker catching fish at less than long range,Mr Mead on the drive with his traditional outfit and cast, Mr Colling senior chucking to the right of "Bennies" where most cast at range all go to confirm to me that you don't have to cast at range but you do have to put a bait where the fish are. 
Chers Jellyworm

[Ramrod]

Short casters certainly aren't wasting their time as a lot of results prove. What is important is the "horses for courses" senario. Red Rum would not win a 6 furlong race so it,s important to fish areas that will improve your chances, which is of course what most anglers do. The problem with not being able to cast a decent line is the fact that it limits you to certain areas in certain conditions. To be effective anywhere, knowing your ground is paramount and very often a match is won or lost when standing on top of the cliffs looking at the sea! The question of, is casting important, of course it is and anyone who thinks not needs to take their heads out of the sand. By far, the majority of successfull anglers can throw a good to very good line, no question.

[Steve]

hw many times have we all fished matches, blasting baits to the horizon only to see some snotty nosed litle kid pull a 6 pounder out from 20yards. quiet often we neglect the ground beneath our feet only to look macho and say look how far i can cast.

[Baramundi Bob]

Big fish often lay close in it has to be said. But not always.

[Jellyworm]

The problem with not being able to cast a decent line is the fact that it limits you to certain areas in certain conditions. To be effective anywhere, knowing your ground is paramount and very often a match is won or lost when standing on top of the cliffs looking at the sea!

That was what I tried to say but put a little more succinctly by the Ramrod 

[Bassyken]

It never use to bother me, I fish Holderness through-out the hours of darkness and usually on a quiet beach and I was confident I was within reach of fish. But on fishing a daytime open last winter I was made to look rather daft by guys close by who were casting to the horizon - and unfortunately on this occassion they were the ones catching.

[crabadabado]

My rule of thumb is, fishing in daylight or over soft ground, distance can pay off if you can get your bait in a bit of tide run. Otherwise darkness or rough ground the fish can be right under your rod tip in some places. Then again it is down to knowing your mark under the given weather, tidal conditions etc.
Regards Col.

[smokey]

Take a look at the top 6 or so guys who do consistently well in the local daylight opens.
Ray,Cps,Crowey,I'O,Paul Medd,Chopper..... It should tell you all you need to know and anyone who thinks differently are kidding themselves  tight lines

[quint]

In simple terms you cast to where the fish are or think they are - for this you need at least two disciplines, distance, either short or long, and the second which is often overlooked, accuracy - in my opinion it would be wise to develop a cast that blends these two components for consistent results

[Spawney Bass]

for this you need at least two disciplines, distance, either short or long

thats me 50% sorted then  what about the spawney bit, that can come in handy now & again 

[IanB]

This is like a continuation of an earlier topic, fishing in daylight.
Yes I think when fishing in daylight distance matters more, but not so much after dark.
Many a time i've caught fish when our kid (paul) has blanked or caught tiddlers,
but then there has been occasions when he's had a big un out.
I think the answer is daytime yes - night time not so much.

[robq]

A big cast is just another weapon in your armoury, there are weapons that are just as important and some a lot more important !! such as local knowledge and quality bait to mention a few!!

A big cast is not always needed, but very handy to have when it is needed 

What does bug me a little is when others think that big casters are egotistical show offs who ALWAYS blast to the horizon just to prove how good they are !!

What a load of c**p 

[Dav]

Being able to throw a lead a fair distance can only benefit an angler at times , defo worth having in the armoury .

[Spawney Bass]

What does bug me a little is when others think that big casters are egotistical show offs who ALWAYS blast to the horizon just to prove how good they are !!

tell us who it was called you that Rob, well put em right for you 

[robq]

What does bug me a little is when others think that big casters are egotistical show offs who ALWAYS blast to the horizon just to prove how good they are !!

tell us who it was called you that Rob, well put em right for you 

Nobody in particular Dave but it is quite a common theme on some forums. A few big name anglers who are on the telly and in magazines have said as much themselves !!

Its interesting to see that Sea Angler magazine has resurrected its casting club again after abandoning it years ago !!

There are days on the holderness when I will drop a bait within the 10 yard line    but there are days when a big chuck will do the business too