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[Baramundi Bob]

A very interesting read on the NESA site. Sless wrote to David Milliband about the sea angling licence. The reply from Milliband is on the site to read. It makes very interesting reading as do some of the replies.

Read The Letter On NESA

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Tags: licence  rsa strategy 

[Ramrod]

 ;D   ;D That certainly was,nt a missed opportunity,nice one

[Baramundi Bob]

bump  ;)

[stuartmac]

Glen
Have I got it wrong (again). The letter from David Millibrand on the above link says that the Marine Bill has nothing to do with providing access I assume that Sless had asked this question. Surely that was one of the initial claims in the "draft" RSA strategy document. Its like many of the commentators say "They will say one thing and renegade as soon as the ink is dry". I have not had it confirmed from any reliable source but I believe that the Coarse fishers put something in the order of £25 million into the Government coffers from their rod licence fees per annum and last year only had £2 million in "AID". When you consider the article in the Daily Telegraph that you posted where they not only related to the Rod Licence but also mentioned Day tickets, is the Minister perhaps telling the truth i.e. The Marine Bill is going to introduce the Rod Licence and the RSA Strategy which he says is managing the coastal waters is going to introduce Day tickets. You can just see the local authorities through their involvement in SFCs claiming ownership of the coast and renting it out on a Day ticket like some reservoir or lake. I say again we need to get united and TSF published my letter at last.

[Baramundi Bob]

Hi Stuart,

Welcome back mate you've been quiet for some time. Like most people I have no trust in the government whatsoever. I think what you say could well be right but what their real intentions are god knows.

I haven't seen your letter is TSF but will try to get hold of a copy. I know we need to get united mate but I struggle to see how. Too many splinter groups all firing their own bullets back but no-one knows how to load up the big cannon and blast this right out the water.

I would like to hear Leon's views on what you say especially this bit :

You can just see the local authorities through their involvement in SFC's claiming ownership of the coast and renting it out on a Day ticket like some reservoir or lake.

But Leon has gone underground and is refusing to say anything at the moment. Although he reads our posts twice daily.

[Leon Roskilly]

Parliamentary debate yesterday:

http://www.sacn.org.uk/Conservation-and-Political-News/Parliamentary_Debate_Licences_and_Bass_MLS-.html

[Acko]

It seems to me that they are "making the right noises" But I am still sceptical as to whether anything will change for the better?
These do gooder ideas are all good and well. But they are a million miles away from the real problems namely bad fishing practice by the commercial sector.
Other countries have found ways to sustain their fish stocks Iceland, Norway Greenland etc...
If the government were to take measures to do something about the "real problems" They would get a much better reception from the Angling community.
Making recreational anglers pay for these empty gestures is totally wrong.
The commercial sector has its own problems that We the recreational anglers are generally in the dark on. It seems us anglers are always too quick to blame the commercials for bad fishing practice. I believe it is foreign boats and ludicrous European policies That are the number one problem Id like to see adressed.
Do something about it that I can see. and THEN ask me if I wish to pay for a licence.

[Acko]

Id like to add this...
European policy is taking perfectly good British boats and scrapping them They are putting people and whole communities out of business.
In the same breath the lunatics are Giving European money to Portugese and Eastern european countries to build brand new state of the art boats to come and fish the same waters These measures are supposed to be protecting.
The same fkn idiots who are allowing this tell me that If I pay a rod licence they will be able to use the money to help fish stocks recover. I dont think so? They take us for fools.

[HARRA1]

 From: "Judith Fletcher" <judith@fionahallmep.co.uk>
To: paul_harrison1956@yahoo.com
Subject: RE: sea angling licence
Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 17:20:33 +0100
Dear Mr Harrison

 

Thank you for your email to Fiona Hall MEP regarding The Marine Bill which is currently open for consultation with DEFRA.  It would be most useful if you could outline what specific parts of the Marine Bill White Paper are of concern to you and your organisation as this is not completely clear in the email. 

 

This will help Fiona to respond to your enquiry.  As this bill is still at the consultation stage it is important that your group formally respond to the consultation with your concerns.  Is this something that you have already done?

 

I look forward to hearing from you soon.

 

Kind regards

 

Judith Fletcher

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-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Harrison [mailto:paul_harrison1956@yahoo.com]
Sent: 14 May 2007 11:41
To: fiona@fionahallmep.co.uk
Subject: sea angeling licence

 

Fiona I wonder if you could look into this for me and comment so this can be published on the fishing sites. Please look at this link as well http://www.whitbyseaanglers.co.uk/forum/north-east-coast-fishing/rsa-strategy-bulletin-board/0/   please note I have also sent a copy of this to CHRIS HUHME

 

 

April 19 2007             DAVID MILIBAND M.P.paul Harrison
 

 
 



Dear Sir:

After reading the letter you sent to Mr Graham Slesser on the marine-bill and reading the report on the same from your department, we the members of the Recreational sea angling (your department wording) group would like to arrange a meeting to voice our views and fears over the cost and implementation of this bill.   Under the pretence of helping improve the environment and marine life of which we mostly support I feel this bill is proposed to help the government to pay for the new offshore wind farms of which it proposes to build to help sustain the power supply for the future.   My thoughts firstly go to your report to where it says it would wait for Scotland to implement the law first before England so I wonder is there some division between the UK on this law, and if Scotland do not implement the charge then will England still go ahead as has been the case in other Scot/English issues.   We then come to the issue of the charge being implemented to boats that fish within waters within the 12 mile radiuses from the shelf, I wonder if this will not just force boats further out so by making them enter water that could be more dangerous.   If this was the case then anyone who would end up in difficulty would have to call on the lifeboat for help at further cost to the taxpayers of this country.   If a boat returns and has only fished outside the limit will there be a landing charge for fish brought home but caught outside the 12 mile limit. Maybe this could be classed as Duty Free.   As you have already indicated there could be some 800,000 licensed sea anglers in line for your stealth tax that may bring in £538 million per year (your report from The Drew Report) we feel this is an unjust tax on something that is done for pleasure and not gain.   If you get moved to sports minister next cabinet re-shuffle would you impose a tax for football supporters to help pay for the 2012 Olympics.   We understand from your letter to Mr Slessor that we only have until 8th June as a deadline for comments, I wonder if we need to get Legal help to stall this bill going through until we have more time to understand it better.   As time is short I will send this to your office at DEFRA and also at Parlament as you are busy with the local Elections, I hope you find the time to reply promptly as we need to make plans ourselves before your deadline.   Please note this is sent also to all opposition party’s for their comments and will be posted on our website at http://www.nesa.co.uk/forums

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