HOW TO FISH KETTLENESS - BIG TIDES - SMALL TIDES - HAVE YOU CRACKED IT YET ?

[big cliff]

  when fishing the kettleness beach area have you worked out the feeding bands on big and small tides ?  when to start, where to fish, theres a few of the bigger names locally havent, can you wise me up

[Lobbers]

i've found that if you put a bait in the water on a big tide you stand a chance of a fish and likewise if you put a bait in the water on a small tide you again stand the chance of a fish, hope this helps ;D ;D ;D ;D

[big cliff]

lobbers i gathered that having a bait in the water helps ! it seems you are struggling with this subject, could it be  mmmm !

[Baramundi Bob]

 :D :D :D

Never could figure that damn place out. Cheers Paul. Thought GJW would be the man to sort you out with that info Big Cliff, the lads had his fair share of biggies from that area over the years  :) :). I've hardly fished the beach area and when I have I've never caught anything. Had the occasional fish down the scar but that's about it. Ive heared people say fish one end on a big tide and fish the other on a small tide. Cant really remember what they said though. Never could figure out why the water is always clear in the runner yet go 100 yards across the beach to the waterfall and its thick as guts  ???. Think there is some link between places that stay clear and their ability to take a very big sea - what do you think ?

I know DT likes the place and judging by the amount of fish he has caught and opens won over the years then the place has potential  ;)

My mate Mr Mead will be happy you are all discussing marks and fishing as he was commenting on how shy all the forum members had become this year.

[Lobbers]

im only joking al, i dont really know kettleness well, last year we had a heaviest fish match in the salburn club, with a big low water i thought i would have a look down kn, having never fished it on a big ebb before, i found somewhere that looked nice to me, and pulled the winner out, a nice 4lb wrasse.
i do like it over high water though, the rock edges to the right on the flood, the beach to the left over high and down.
again i only found this out the first time i fished it, which was in the stiddy open a few years ago, DT himself couldnt pull the wool over my eyes when he pretended to accidently cast over me, whoops he said, and walked down the beach to straighten up his line, he reeled in after 10 mins and walked back past me and said oh well nowt over here either, but i was thinking theres no way a top boy like him accidently does anything in this game so 5 1/2 hours into the 6 hour match without a bite i decided to put all the best bait i had left onto a 6/0 pennel, and cast where he had.
WALLOP!!!  with 10 mins to go i pulled a 7lb'er out ;D ;D

[big cliff]

im a bit shy, but im just starting to warm up a touch, i think lobbers is struggling on this one BOB ! i hope meddy likes it, it gives the lads who play the cards close to there chest a chance to speak up, thats if they know the answer !

[Baramundi Bob]

I think those who joined the ministry of misinformation may never leave Cliff. I constantly get hassel about the site and told not to tell anyone anything but I say its an open forum and people will post what they want when they want. I showed someone a mark last year and I'm still getting stick for it now almost a full year later, but that's fishing. There's more to fishing than being in the right spot. Like being in the right spot and making sure you get your quota  ;) ;D. With more and more anglers joining the ranks you got to up your game or make do :'(

p.s I know lobbers knows Kettleness well. There aren't many will beat the lad there.  :)

[GJW]

Don't know why big cliff is asking how to fish k-ness, hes the man who showed me how to fish the spot... ??? ???..and yeah I've had a few good un's from that area best 14lb 6oz but big cliffs had bigger think his best was 18lb from there......but then there was still dinosaurs around at the time. ;D ;D ;D..only joking matey,,,, ;) ;). haven't bothered with the spot the last couple of seasons tend to fish hummersea instead the two tend to fish very similar.. and hummersea is closer.. ;D

[Baramundi Bob]

Not sure why he would ask the question Gary if he already knows :). Maybe he could educate me as its a spot I would love to fish.  I've watched DT over the years and know what could be achieved from the mark  :). But Ive tried fishing the same marks as DT and never do well, especially when he is there, I assume he knows things I dont.

[Lobbers]

its not a difficult place, all the shots are east, just go down and plop a bait for foooksake ???

[GJW]

Think he could be testing the water, to see if people have come across the same pattern as he has found about the spot... ;) ;) ;D. yeah you can get fish any state of the tide, there is always a chance as long as you have a bait in the water... but as you will know yourself after fishing a spot for years in diffrent conditions, tides ect...a pattern starts to emerge on how and when to fish regarding the size of tide sea state, and there is nothing set in stone with fishing but they are patterns that emerge if you look hard enough. not on about the ground in front of the nab its self or to the south of the nab, in the kelp haven't fished it enough to work it out, fished it in the summer months on calm evenings and it has been slow around the low water but as the tide pushes hard on the flood the bites and fish have came but with the ground been flat scaur you soon get pushed off the spots just when the action is really starting, ohh for abit of hight to the ground to help you stay with the fish, think cliff must be on about the ground from the the 50yrds the right of the rope to the waterfall area.. remember one time pulled up at the top and there were a few cars at the top of a few good anglers that i know, on the way down i met the boys on their way back up, they said its crap tonite mate nowt about not a fish between us, i thought to myself but to be honest i wouldn't have even been here at the time they were fishing it on that size tide, so i continued down to the bottom and fished there and not long after they had gone the fish came on, just as i had thought. and ended up with a good bag..so the question is were the fish there all the time but not feeding ??? or had it lived up to the pattern and moved in at that particular time in the tide.. because i have no doubt the lads who were fishing had real good bait and were good anglers.

Not sure why he would ask the question Gary if he already knows :). Maybe he could educate me as its a spot I would love to fish.  I've watched DT over the years and know what could be achieved from the mark  :). But Ive tried fishing the same marks as DT and never do well, especially when he is there, I assume he knows things I dont.

[Baramundi Bob]

I can just picture it now mate, everyone going home before the time is right and you know your gonna cane the fish because the conditions are bang on ;D ;D. Its not knowing where the mark is that counts its knowing how and when it fishes and that knowledge don't come cheap. My guess is it took you a lot of years to figure out exactly when the fish will come and you now reap the rewards for your years of efforts.

[GJW]

Spot on there Glen, its not so much about knowing the mark, but knowing the mark inside the mark...if you know what i mean ;) I am far from an expert on it matey, like you said tho, its knowledge that is built up through the years, and it helps if you can get fast tracked. ;)
D.T cetainly knows that spot mate...

[Baramundi Bob]

So will you be fast tracking me  ;D ;D ;D

[GJW]

 ;D ;D ;D ;D......suddenly iv'e lost my memory....???????? what were we on about.. ::) ::)

[Dav]

Thats it like , the easy part is always finding the mark ......like you say it can take years of fishing to totally suss a venue out like kettleness to fish it in all conditions and tides , then still the day you fish may just be one of them days that the fish are not there or biting ,so i would say a return on them same conditions wouldnt do no harm , also the amount of accessable ground south of kettleness is also worth studying , for future reference.....what with all the other marks around here un sussed , we would need to live for 100 years to suss em all....then some   :)

[Baramundi Bob]

;D ;D ;D ;D......suddenly iv'e lost my memory....???????? what were we on about.. ::) ::)

Did you steel that line from Dennis Thompson ? ;). He once said to me, the older I get the worse my memory gets. But he hadn't forgot where to fish that same night and how to get 28 pound of fish in the bag.

[big cliff]

theres a few whitby lads staying quiet on this subject, come on lads speak up, as prince charles once said ----- IM  ALL  EARS ---------

[Baramundi Bob]

Hardly any of the Whitby lads fish the place Cliff. The only 2 I know wont use this forum  :)

[Dav]

I bet they secreatly spy tho glen .... :)
deep down i bet there is a load of anglers spy on here and dont bother joining in  and having a crack ,maybe they are too good to ask questions and know it all anyway  ;D ;D , my 2 pennies worth
so all you spys join  ;)

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