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fish or no fish?
« on: May 29, 2007, 08:15:10 PM »
just off on a veture out for some codling and mayby a bass if i'm lucky, will post my results up later in the early hours as no work tomorrow ;D

i'll try get a few piccy's too :)

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Re: fish or no fish?
« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2007, 08:20:15 PM »
Good luck mate, looking forward to the hearing the out come.

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Re: fish or no fish?
« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2007, 08:21:23 PM »
Im thinking of going tommorrow too, dunno where though. Went today for a chuck and everywhere was full of weed.


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Re: fish or no fish?
« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2007, 08:24:40 PM »
Mite Go On Brigg With Yoou Dan  ;)
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Re: fish or no fish?
« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2007, 07:30:45 AM »
went on whitby west at low, if i had owt decent casting over towards the east, i was going to go over to the east and fish it over high, i had six mops, they were all 34cm long, which is good for the near future, but no good for me last night so instead of the east i went back up the coast and tried cowbar jetty, conditions were perfect, but had no bites at all so at top water i went up onto cowbar cliffs. after a coule of casts i was about ready to call it a night by this time it was almost broad daylight, i had a right whack of a bite followed by a very fast slack line, this thing was going like a bullit, when i caught up to the fish it went absolutely beserk and then whacked my rod over and started torpedoing about, with the fish coming closer, and me starting to reel it up to the surface it went mental again, then it surfaced, it was an enormous bass, and considering i was 100 feet up, and it still looked big tells you this big bar of silver i had on was something special, i was absolutely bricking it as it went off its head and proceded to part company with my hook :'( :'(. after i lost it i couldnt settle and couldnt do anything right and missed another possible 3 good bass bites, one of them my line was wrapped around my rest, i was having a slash, when i turned round my rod was going like the crackers, i struck, well you can imagine the rest >:( >:(. anyway im gonna have a kip and go and have another crack at them later today :-[

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Re: fish or no fish?
« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2007, 08:01:52 AM »
Sounds like you had a very emotional time there mate ;D anyway hope you manage to land one of the silver bullets today.

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Re: fish or no fish?
« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2007, 08:06:10 AM »
i'd love to say  se la ve and the one that got away and theres pleanty more fish in the see and all that but im foooooking livid :D :D

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« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2007, 08:20:39 AM »
Yes fishing is very relaxing and stress free ;D ;D
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Re: fish or no fish?
« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2007, 08:33:39 AM »
if you had of seen it you would be having palpatations aswell jack, why why why :'(.
just before it shook the hook, i remember thinking to myself,   no way am i trying to lift this fish, i am going to stand here with it on untill low water if i have to, then dropp my rod and fly down and pick it up off the scaur, yes its mine my imagination told me, no the loose line and fishless trace jumping out of the water told me >:( :'( >:( :'( :D

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Re: fish or no fish?
« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2007, 08:50:31 AM »
 One for the story book lobbers . Having another go today is a good idea as I bet there is every chance they will still be there. I was speaking to a beach netsman the other week and he said that he had caugth some "very big" bass recently and one of them had 3 snoods in its mouth, and it is regular they have hooks in their mouths and stomachs. It seems they find it easy to smash our conventional cod gear. GOOD LUCK.
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Re: fish or no fish?
« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2007, 09:03:53 AM »
  It seems they find it easy to smash our conventional cod gear. GOOD LUCK.

Could it be that the conventional "winch them ashore" tactic of the cod angler is not the best idea for a decent bass ? Maybe fishing from the same level and using drag or backwinding on a fixed spool would be useful  ;) :). I would imagine a good bass to be as strong as a sea trout which are very lively little critters.

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« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2007, 09:05:21 AM »
thats the thing, i was using cod gear, right down to the 50lb snood and 6/0 kamasan b940, and the way it went off its head, and i thought( a couple of times) that i had it under controll, it was on the surface on its side, its done, i thought, then splash splash, could'nt see it, bang bang, rod tip, then i actually saw my trace, minus fish come flying out of the water, i did'nt have to reel in any more to know that i had just lost a pig of a bass.

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Re: fish or no fish?
« Reply #12 on: May 30, 2007, 09:07:11 AM »
, i am going to stand here with it on untill low water if i have to, then dropp my rod and fly down and pick it up off the scaur,

How about the Gary Watson Technique ? Cut the line, tie it to a jigger with a big treble on, throw the jigger off the cliff and go down the bottom and find the jigger later on. 

Just another thought Paul. Bri Harland is after importing a cliff gaff from Australia. Why not get 2 and half the postage  ;) :)

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« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2007, 09:23:53 AM »
  It seems they find it easy to smash our conventional cod gear. GOOD LUCK.

Could it be that the conventional "winch them ashore" tactic of the cod angler is not the best idea for a decent bass ? Maybe fishing from the same level and using drag or backwinding on a fixed spool would be useful  ;) :). I would imagine a good bass to be as strong as a sea trout which are very lively little critters.

i had a 7lb bass on a plugging rod glen, on 10lbline, after a amazing splash crash dive and a bit of kiting left and right, it was at my feet, the drag on the reel worked perfectly and that was it.  this is why, with so much distance between me and the fish, the quality of the connection between me and the fish from such a height, it ran slack line a few times and when i caught it up, i still felt under controll, ie pulling it across the the surface when it was on its side. at the end of the day mate the hook held for as long as it did, and it was'nt in good enough :'(.

i'm carm now, might even relax a bit, but this fish was,i think a double figure bass, not from the fight(i've had better fighting double f cod), but from the sight, it looked from 100 foot up, two foot long and 8 inch deep, i know this might sound far fetched but i have had fish on in the dark, picked them up in my headlight on the way in, and thoght i have a 2 or 3 pounder, only to find that i'm struggling to winch a 5 or 6 pounder up on my reel, the bass was a deep set but long fish. or i'm gutted :'(

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« Reply #14 on: May 30, 2007, 09:29:07 AM »
, i am going to stand here with it on untill low water if i have to, then dropp my rod and fly down and pick it up off the scaur,

How about the Gary Watson Technique ? Cut the line, tie it to a jigger with a big treble on, throw the jigger off the cliff and go down the bottom and find the jigger later on. 

Just another thought Paul. Bri Harland is after importing a cliff gaff from Australia. Why not get 2 and half the postage  ;) :)
, i am going to stand here with it on untill low water if i have to, then dropp my rod and fly down and pick it up off the scaur,

How about the Gary Watson Technique ? Cut the line, tie it to a jigger with a big treble on, throw the jigger off the cliff and go down the bottom and find the jigger later on. 

Just another thought Paul. Bri Harland is after importing a cliff gaff from Australia. Why not get 2 and half the postage  ;) :)

i had it sraight in my head to sit it out mate,  for the future defo :)

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« Reply #15 on: May 30, 2007, 09:53:40 AM »
 Lobbers , I lost a golden coloured cod of about 15lb off an inshore wreck last wed. and I was lying awake last night thinking about it It was on a light rod 29lb braid drag set everything perfect it was lying at the back of the boat as I reached for the gaff some dozy muppet started dragging it under the boat  despite me screaming at him TWICE to stop he took no notice and the line parted on the tabs and the fish and my fav.shad swam away. I could not talk for a while and am still cut up about it now cause it should not have happened.
You have been very unlucky that bass threw the hook. What bait were you using ? I tried for one at Skipsea on a perfect falling sea yesterday and never had a bite in 4hrs using frozen blacks,squid and frozen crab.
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« Reply #16 on: May 30, 2007, 10:04:49 AM »
i was using the biggest orangey yolked live peeler i have :P

it's ok, it's just another fish that i have to "get over", but i think that one might have been a bit more special than the one glen tried to get out for me 10 years ago off whitby west, he had blood dripping down his fingers, down onto my line trying to lift a sow with fins i had hooked, not for size, just that it was a bass and i really do think it was a double figure fish ..

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« Reply #17 on: May 30, 2007, 10:41:01 AM »
I'll bet that you will remember that fish until your dying Day Lobbers :'( :'(

I hate losing any fish, especially when I have seen it, I lost a nice cod about 8 or 9lb at aldboro lane end quite a few years back, I couldnt get it up the cliff on standard beach gear and I couldnt get down as it had all slipped and I was on my own with a lively sea, I tried for about 5 minutes to get it up before the line went at the leader knot. I still have nightmares about it now !
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Re: fish or no fish?
« Reply #18 on: May 30, 2007, 10:53:35 AM »
Thats cliffe fishing , got to be prepared to loose fish... bass are very bony mouthed fish ,if it penetrated properly it may of been ure fish paul, also i wouldnt of been using b940 hooks paul ,, ive actually bent them on cod without a lift , i would be using cox & rawle bass hooks or vikings or summit strong and sharp, ,especially with a big lift to deal with  ,just my own experience ..and not trying to tell u what to use either, ure bigger than me  ;D ;D
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Re: fish or no fish?
« Reply #19 on: May 30, 2007, 10:54:04 AM »
Forgot to say , very un lucky mate , i feel for you.... :'( :'(
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